today about this. >> i think the current administration has taken lying to a new level. >> i mean, taking lying to a new level. when you're the president of the united states that is a pretty serious accusation. >> well, it is. but look, i think you also have to look at the politics of it, which is whether you're on the right or the left, i think the thing that people can agree on, this was not handled the correct way. it was by no means efficient and effective and you got to fix it. >> so if you were at the white house now, and you have been there before, from george bush senior to others, you're in that oval room, and you have barack obama on the opposite of you. and he says, come on, judy smith, you're the expert, what is the best way to get me out of this? >> two things, one, he has to apologize, which he did. i think the second thing is, you need to make sure your technology is right. that it is on target.